cordless power tool motors for robot drive trains ?

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cordless power tool motors for robot drive trains ? Pogo 11-29-2005
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Posted by Pogo on November 29, 2005, 3:48 pm
Just had a wild thought: has anyone successfully used cordless power tool
motors for robot drive trains ?
Such as cordless circular saw ? Pros (cheap; off the shelf; ) ? Cons ? (
high current draw ? gear casing in body itself ? )

At $50 each for a brand new one, the price seems right. But I am sure there
are other considerations required to make it work in actuallity.

Any comments are welcome.



Posted by Buddy Smith on November 29, 2005, 4:34 pm
> Just had a wild thought: has anyone successfully used cordless power tool
> motors for robot drive trains ?

You could try this for starters:

http://www.wa4dsy.net/robot/drillmaster/index.html

I tried with a drill I got at a garage sale, but I was unable to get the
chuck removed.

ttyl,

--buddy



Posted by Mark Haase on November 29, 2005, 10:57 pm

> You could try this for starters:
>
> http://www.wa4dsy.net/robot/drillmaster/index.html
>
> I tried with a drill I got at a garage sale, but I was unable to get the
> chuck removed.
>
> ttyl,
>
> --buddy

Ditto. I tried taking one apart, and the whole thing is designed to be
hacker-proof. (This was a Ryobi, I think.) Not only is the case really
hard to open, but the clutch and chuck all seemed to be inseparable. I
did manage to pull out the planetary gears, but thats not really useful
for anything, just kind of fun to look at.

--
|\/| /| |2 |<
mehaase(at)gmail(dot)com

Posted by DOC on December 5, 2005, 1:43 am
The cheaper ones tend to be more difficult to hack.

Where the more expensive ones have proper bearings, fasteners and
metal gears, the cheap stuff tends to come with NO bearings, plastic gears
and riveted fasteners.


Most of the chuck assemblies I have seen have a left hand threaded screw
inside the
chuck that helps secure the chuck to the shaft. You need to remove this
screw first
before you can unscrew the chuck from the shaft.


I've done a bit of work with some of these and generally pulled them from a
Black & Decker
cordless drills.

In one case I made several changes to the gearbox:

- replaced the shaft with a custom made piece that was better adapted to the
sprocket
I was using.

- reinforced the plastic housing with epoxy.

- turned the housing on a lathe to get it a bit more concentric.


The motors are mostly Johnsons' and they seem to easily tolerate overvoltage
of 50% or more.


DOC




...

> Ditto. I tried taking one apart, and the whole thing is designed to be
> hacker-proof. (This was a Ryobi, I think.) Not only is the case really
> hard to open, but the clutch and chuck all seemed to be inseparable. I
> did manage to pull out the planetary gears, but thats not really useful
> for anything, just kind of fun to look at.
> --
> |\/| /| |2 |<
> mehaase(at)gmail(dot)com



Posted by Bill Janssen on November 29, 2005, 7:19 pm
Pogo wrote:

>Just had a wild thought: has anyone successfully used cordless power tool
>motors for robot drive trains ?
>Such as cordless circular saw ? Pros (cheap; off the shelf; ) ? Cons ? (
>high current draw ? gear casing in body itself ? )
>At $50 each for a brand new one, the price seems right. But I am sure there
>are other considerations required to make it work in actuallity.
>Any comments are welcome.
>
Cordless screwdrivers are used to tune Amateur radio mobile antennas.
Commonly
called "Screwdriver Antennas"

Bill K7NOM

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