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Posted by Gerry Lintonice on September 26, 2005, 3:46 am
I mean, there are so many documentary films that clearly show, that
robots hate us. Just watch The Terminator, Matrix or take a look at
Battlestar Galactica.
That proves that robots are not good and mean death to mankind, so it
is not logical to build our own killers or it'd be suicide.
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Posted by Gordon McComb on September 26, 2005, 11:38 am
Gerry Lintonice wrote:
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> I mean, there are so many documentary films that clearly show, that
> robots hate us. Just watch The Terminator, Matrix or take a look at
> Battlestar Galactica.
>
> That proves that robots are not good and mean death to mankind, so it
> is not logical to build our own killers or it'd be suicide.
Ah, yes, like Galxy Quest, Terminator, Matrix, and Battlestar Galactica
are fine "historical documents." Why these shows are on the SciFi
Channel instead of the Discovery Channel, I'll never understand.
-- Gordon
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Posted by on September 26, 2005, 12:34 pm
I am a huge fan of Science Fiction novels. It is interesting to read
some of the old books, because they predicted future technology, state
of the earth, and state of society.
SciFi shows robots being murderer, mean, greedy, scary because these
are human traits. If the past is any indication, a "thinking"
invention of a human being is likely to eventually possess these
characteristics. A creation reflects the creators mind.
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Posted by Tim Polmear on September 26, 2005, 12:49 pm
On 26 Sep 2005 09:34:36 -0700, aiiadict@gmail.com wrote:
>I am a huge fan of Science Fiction novels. It is interesting to read
>some of the old books, because they predicted future technology, state
>of the earth, and state of society.
>SciFi shows robots being murderer, mean, greedy, scary because these
>are human traits. If the past is any indication, a "thinking"
>invention of a human being is likely to eventually possess these
>characteristics. A creation reflects the creators mind.
Are you suggesting that my mind likes to malfunction, drive off the
table and fail to respond to commands of any kind? Hang on, come to
think of it...good point.
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Posted by Gordon McComb on September 26, 2005, 6:23 pm
aiiadict@gmail.com wrote:
> SciFi shows robots being murderer, mean, greedy, scary because these
> are human traits. If the past is any indication, a "thinking"
> invention of a human being is likely to eventually possess these
> characteristics. A creation reflects the creators mind.
Robot stories have tended to be negative, especially post 19th century.
The movie Metropolis shows robots as a menace. When taken in context of
the times, it's not hard to see why. The movie was made as the country
(the world really) was shifting toward industrial automation, led by the
likes of Henry Ford. Workers were already rebelling against "the
machines." The fact that the bad robot in Metropolis took the appearance
of an attractive female is also not an accident. The idea was that even
dressed up and pretty, mechanization threatens the working class.
The play R.U.R., which is often cited as creating the term "robot," was
also about dehumanization through mechanization, though not as subtle as
Metropolis. To this day, factory unions still fight over the ratio of
people vs. robots. I suspect there will always be a love/hate
relationship.
During the Depression robot stories in the sci-fi pulps were
particularly negative. It wasn't until writers like Eando Binder and
Isaac Asimov wrote about a "kinder, gentler" robot did things start to
turn around, and then only in written literature. The berserk robot was
still a favorite of the movies, because -- well -- they're more
interesting! I still think it's cool a robot got the hots for Farrah
Fawcett in Saturn 3.
-- Gordon
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> I mean, there are so many documentary films that clearly show, that
> robots hate us. Just watch The Terminator, Matrix or take a look at
> Battlestar Galactica.
>
> That proves that robots are not good and mean death to mankind, so it
> is not logical to build our own killers or it'd be suicide.