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Source for a variety of small motors and gears? l o 05-12-2010
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Posted by l o on May 12, 2010, 8:59 pm


I want to prototype a device that would use some small motors and
gears. These would be the types of gears and motors used in cheap
toys. I realize I can take some cheap toys and gears apart, but even
if I were to get really lucky and find exactly the right sizes, they
don't list the manufacturer and specs for those parts on the box.

Is there a source that people go to when they want to prototype
motorized toys and need to select parts?

Joe Dunfee

Posted by John Nagle on May 16, 2010, 9:45 pm


l o wrote:
> I want to prototype a device that would use some small motors and
> gears. These would be the types of gears and motors used in cheap
> toys. I realize I can take some cheap toys and gears apart, but even
> if I were to get really lucky and find exactly the right sizes, they
> don't list the manufacturer and specs for those parts on the box.
>
> Is there a source that people go to when they want to prototype
> motorized toys and need to select parts?
>
> Joe Dunfee

Small Parts, Inc. and Berg are the usual sources. There are
various surplus and hobbyist sources, but those two have full lines
of parts. The parts will cost far more than they would in production;
you'll have to re-engineer for volume production, which means getting
up to speed on how toys are really made.

                    John Nagle

Posted by Wayne C. Gramlich on May 17, 2010, 12:59 am


I would add SDP/SI to the list:

<http://wwww.sdp-si.com/>

-Wayne

John Nagle wrote:
> l o wrote:
>> I want to prototype a device that would use some small motors and
>> gears. These would be the types of gears and motors used in cheap
>> toys. I realize I can take some cheap toys and gears apart, but even
>> if I were to get really lucky and find exactly the right sizes, they
>> don't list the manufacturer and specs for those parts on the box.
>> Is there a source that people go to when they want to prototype
>> motorized toys and need to select parts?
>> Joe Dunfee
>
> Small Parts, Inc. and Berg are the usual sources. There are
> various surplus and hobbyist sources, but those two have full lines
> of parts. The parts will cost far more than they would in production;
> you'll have to re-engineer for volume production, which means getting
> up to speed on how toys are really made.
>
> John Nagle

Posted by l o on May 17, 2010, 10:48 pm


Thank you Wayne and John for those links. The challenge with places
like this is that they have too much to choose from. I had hoped to
choose common sizes, so that if there were to be a production run, the
choices I make would be cost effective. Perhaps I should just let
cost drive my decision on the prototype parts. A cheap gear is
probably a commodity... hmm, or perhaps an odd size they are trying to
get rid of! As I think more about it, to a toy maker who is going to
make 100,000 of something, ALL sizes are commodity sizes.

Part of what took me down this road is that I became aware of how
accessible rapid prototyping is nowadays. Some of the materials are
strong enough to be functional as they are. Shapeways.com certainly
has a nice web interface for their work, but I am sure there are a
zillion other rapid prototyping service bureaus. The bottom line is
that prototyping a plastic toy or robot is within anyone's reach. No
need to do injection molding for a prototype.

Being unemployed (the 2nd time in as many years) is actually the main
reason I am doing this. I have to design something!

Oh, by the way, the link for Stock Drives that you gave had an extra
w. It should read, http://www.sdp-si.com

Joe Dunfee

Posted by Wayne C. Gramlich on May 18, 2010, 6:49 pm


l o wrote:
> Thank you Wayne and John for those links. The challenge with places
> like this is that they have too much to choose from. I had hoped to
> choose common sizes, so that if there were to be a production run, the
> choices I make would be cost effective. Perhaps I should just let
> cost drive my decision on the prototype parts. A cheap gear is
> probably a commodity... hmm, or perhaps an odd size they are trying to
> get rid of! As I think more about it, to a toy maker who is going to
> make 100,000 of something, ALL sizes are commodity sizes.

When you make 100K of something, custom molds are cost effective.
For a gear box, the spur reduction gears (my terminolgy) where
one large gear has a smaller gear on the same shaft are typically
molded together.

> Part of what took me down this road is that I became aware of how
> accessible rapid prototyping is nowadays. Some of the materials are
> strong enough to be functional as they are. Shapeways.com certainly
> has a nice web interface for their work, but I am sure there are a
> zillion other rapid prototyping service bureaus. The bottom line is
> that prototyping a plastic toy or robot is within anyone's reach. No
> need to do injection molding for a prototype.
>
> Being unemployed (the 2nd time in as many years) is actually the main
> reason I am doing this. I have to design something!
>
> Oh, by the way, the link for Stock Drives that you gave had an extra
> w. It should read, http://www.sdp-si.com

I feel your pain trying to navigate the sdp-si web site. I find it
particularly frustrating that you have to click on each part
number to get the price.

I will also point out the Lego gear system. It is lacks a large range
of sizes, but it is still pretty flexible.

-Wayne

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