Re: Sensors: "Where is the other end of my tether?"

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Re: Sensors: "Where is the other end of my tether?" Martin Blume 10-04-2005
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Posted by Martin Blume on October 4, 2005, 4:49 pm
"Frnak McKenney"
>
> There are several different approaches to determining a
> robot's position "absolutely" (okay, relative to the
> Earth) such as GPS. There are others for determining
> position relative to beacons and walls where sound, light
> or RF are at least partially unobstructed.
>
> But... suppose you want to build a tethered (remotely
> powered) tunnel crawler to explore and map complex
> networks of metal piping, such as sewers, conduits, and
> ventilation ducts? Odometry would be a bit
> "sloppy" (especially in sewer pipes), and one couldn't
> depend on light or sound.
>
> Is there some simple method for determining where one end
> of a cable is relative to the other end? (Okay, how
> about a complex method?)
may be complex ($$$): Inertial Navigation?

HTH
Martin



Posted by Frnak McKenney on October 7, 2005, 9:23 am
> "Frnak McKenney"
>>
>> There are several different approaches to determining a
>> robot's position "absolutely" (okay, relative to the
>> Earth) such as GPS. There are others for determining
>> position relative to beacons and walls where sound, light
>> or RF are at least partially unobstructed.
>>
>> But... suppose you want to build a tethered (remotely
>> powered) tunnel crawler to explore and map complex
>> networks of metal piping, such as sewers, conduits, and
>> ventilation ducts? Odometry would be a bit
>> "sloppy" (especially in sewer pipes), and one couldn't
>> depend on light or sound.
>>
>> Is there some simple method for determining where one end
>> of a cable is relative to the other end? (Okay, how
>> about a complex method?)
> may be complex ($$$): Inertial Navigation?

Martin,

I really like the "smart cable" Brent found (see previous post),
but it's off in the future. The inertial approach (measure where
the end of the cable travels rather than try to obtain an after-
the-fact position) is already "here" (and it's wireless --
the cable is invisible<grin>):

IMU 6 Degrees of Freedom - v2 with USB Bluetooth and Battery
Holder
http://www.sparkfun.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cartB1120&
cat=1&itemidI3&

Description: Complete wireless Inertia Measurement System -
6 degrees of freedom. Version 2 uses the single IC triple axis
accelerometer from Freescale MMA7260Q and combines it with three
iMEMs gyroscopes. Roll, Pitch, and Yaw gyro sensors including a
total of 3 tilt axis. All measurements are transmitted via a
wireless Class 1 Bluetooth link that is extremely easy to use
with a range of 100m (330ft) line-of-sight and 30m (100ft)
indoors.

Only minor flaw (for me) is the $350 price tag. TANSTAAFL.


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
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