Re: MindForth 20.JAN.2008 - "out of the box" - Postings....

> Frank wrote:

>> ATM, Just some observations: I of course find the same issues you
>> are having, but on a different scale. The 1K mind core you are
>> working on rejuvenates rapidly and regularly, wait till you pump the
>> core up in size, the problems, stray activations, rise as well.

> FJR, you mention the "cns" core size most opportunely,
> because with my "AI-Complete" uploads of yesterday
> (22.JAN.2008) for the first time I am ready to start
> doubling the mind-core size of MindForth in the near
> future. Previously I felt no need to have a large mind-core
> because I could work on everything I needed to in 1K.

>> I am working from a 10K core that does not rejuvenate
>> as regularly, I did notice in the Think module you state,
>> examine recent psi nodes for activations and if found
>> go into English. Well with 1K core rejuvenating frequently
>> recent has a differen meaning then a 10K core.
>> So I had to modify my examination from looking at the entire
>> core to literally just a fraction to include the recent activities.
>> Doing this reduced the stray activation and unrelated
>> thoughts generated.
>> An aside, I often have thought about how you go about
>> training an AI mind.

> Just today I updated the User Manual at
> http://mind.sourceforge.net/m4thuser.html
> for the first time in a year or two, with the
> following material about your own AI:
> "As AI Mind versions proliferate in Forth
> and other programming languages, you may
> want to install and try out alternative
> AI Mind versions such as
> http://aimind-i.com -- Franks AI Mind
> by Mr. Frank J. Russo -- a version which
> tends to incorporate theoretical and algorithmic
> improvements from the original MindForth,
> while going beyond the original with such
> advanced features as the ability to send
> and receive e-mail, and the ability to
> surf the World Wide Web."

>> So I put together input that keeps the AI asking what, always a
>> new concept entered by me. Of course once I repeat concepts it no
>> longer ask what. After entering 50-60 sentences I then ask the mind
>> questions, who are you, who am I, what is a dog, what does cat eat...
>> all question based on the previous sentences I entered and the AI
>> responded with single answers all in line with what I asked. Actually
>> it surprised the mess out of me. Next I'll attempt to ask a quesion
>> that does not have a direct answer in the core to see how it is
>> handled. I was so surprized at the results I just kept asking
>> questions I knew there should be answers to.
>> I still have not uploaded the '08 version maybe I'll get to it
>> before the weekend gets here.
>> Frank
>> AIMind-i.com

> I don't really understand what John Passaniti is
> griping about so much in his recent post.
> Here we are, trying to advance the state
> of the art, and JPass can olnly gripe
> instead of leading the cheering section?
> Anyway, Frank, I would like to respond here
> to your remarks about activation-levels in the
> "MindForth 15.JAN.2008" thread. You say,
> "Or - it has just occured to me - you are using
> the value set for spike from nounact of the subject?"
> I am not sure off the top of my head. I do know,
> however, that the activation-settings of MindForth
> are all getting tightened up in recent releases.
> The 22.JAN.2008 uploads were the first-ever
> truly working Mind.Forth AI. First I uploaded
> http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/mind4th.html
> in the morning, after two days of hard work.
> In that first working model (after 13 years),
> I discovered that pressing the [Enter] key
> to force the AI to pause for user input,
> actually introduces glitches if the AI is
> in the middle of thinking a thought.
> So therefore I made the "non-invasive"
> Tab key cause a pause for user input,
> and I wrote up the change in the User Manual.
> (Tab still switches display modes.)
> Over the course of the day (22jan2008),
> it bothered me that here I finally had a
> working AI Mind in Forth, but its performance
> was so lackluster and so unconvincing, so I
> wrote a mechanism to detect repetitious
> thoughts and I uploaded it separately to
> http://mind.sourceforge.net/mind4th.html
> without updating the VirtualEntity site,
> because the repetition-detecting version
> needs to be improved a little more.
> From now on it will be so pleasant to be
> coding an AI that already works, rather
> than eliminating bug after bug after bug,
> just to see some vexing new bug pop up.
> I may try to fall a little 'Net-silent now,
> instead of constantly harping about
> MindForth, although I keep brainstorming
> new AI Mind ideas that I would like to
> tell the world about. For instance, my
> "thotnum" method of detecting repetitious
> thoughts engendered in me today a way
> of perhaps consolidating the knowledge-base
> during the Rejuvenate process -- just check
> all the memories of thoughts and remove
> any duplicates. In that way, the knowledge
> in the KB becomes more concentrated.
> Whoever looks at MindForth right now
> might think it's still pretty primitive,
> and it is, but it _does_ think and
> it no longer spouts the gibberish
> for which Mentifex AI was famous.
> By the way, "The answer is 42."
> That's how many years it took me
> to solve AI in theory (1979) and
> in software (22 January 2008),
> starting in December of 1965.
> Bye for now.
> ATM/Mentifex
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