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Help finding camera j 03-15-2007
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Posted by on March 15, 2007, 1:03 pm
Hello,

I'm trying to find a bunch of cheap cameras for a budget project I am
working on, but I haven't had much luck. I need the following:

- small enclosed camera or board camera
- black and white
- usb or 1394 with directshow drivers (preferably UVC or DCAM)
- m12 or cs lens mount
- no IR filtering
- 1/3" or greater sensor size (to expand field of view with lens)
- less than $100

no real preference on:

- resolution
- sensor type (CMOS CCD)

ironically a cheap $5.99 webcam off ebay did the job, except:

- need to mount two of them (not stereo though) in PERFECT alignment
and cheap swivel plastic, etc just doesn't work
- need to mount super wide angle lense
- would prefer strictly b&w

any idea on resources to help find this? All of the machine vision
cameras I'm seeing are well over $100! I'm quite irritated that it
looks like I'm going to have to fork out that much each of these when
the $5.99 camera had all of the electronics covered!

Thanks in advance for any help!


Posted by Si Ballenger on March 15, 2007, 10:11 pm
On 15 Mar 2007 10:03:45 -0700, j@thewolfweb.com wrote:

>Hello,
>I'm trying to find a bunch of cheap cameras for a budget project I am
>working on, but I haven't had much luck. I need the following:
>- small enclosed camera or board camera
>- black and white
>- usb or 1394 with directshow drivers (preferably UVC or DCAM)
>- m12 or cs lens mount
>- no IR filtering
>- 1/3" or greater sensor size (to expand field of view with lens)
>- less than $100
>no real preference on:
>- resolution
>- sensor type (CMOS CCD)
>ironically a cheap $5.99 webcam off ebay did the job, except:
>- need to mount two of them (not stereo though) in PERFECT alignment
>and cheap swivel plastic, etc just doesn't work
>- need to mount super wide angle lense
>- would prefer strictly b&w
>any idea on resources to help find this? All of the machine vision
>cameras I'm seeing are well over $100! I'm quite irritated that it
>looks like I'm going to have to fork out that much each of these when
>the $5.99 camera had all of the electronics covered!
>Thanks in advance for any help!

Have you actually tried using two or more USB cams at the same
time in your project? When connected to a PC, most USB cams can
only be used one at a time.

Posted by on March 16, 2007, 10:14 am
On Mar 15, 10:11 pm, shb*NO*SP...@comporium.net (Si Ballenger) wrote:
> On 15 Mar 2007 10:03:45 -0700, j...@thewolfweb.com wrote:
> >Hello,
> >I'm trying to find a bunch of cheap cameras for a budget project I am
> >working on, but I haven't had much luck. I need the following:
> >- small enclosed camera or board camera
> >- black and white
> >- usb or 1394 with directshow drivers (preferably UVC or DCAM)
> >- m12 or cs lens mount
> >- no IR filtering
> >- 1/3" or greater sensor size (to expand field of view with lens)
> >- less than $100
> >no real preference on:
> >- resolution
> >- sensor type (CMOS CCD)
> >ironically a cheap $5.99 webcam off ebay did the job, except:
> >- need to mount two of them (not stereo though) in PERFECT alignment
> >and cheap swivel plastic, etc just doesn't work
> >- need to mount super wide angle lense
> >- would prefer strictly b&w
> >any idea on resources to help find this? All of the machine vision
> >cameras I'm seeing are well over $100! I'm quite irritated that it
> >looks like I'm going to have to fork out that much each of these when
> >the $5.99 camera had all of the electronics covered!
> >Thanks in advance for any help!
> Have you actually tried using two or more USB cams at the same
> time in your project? When connected to a PC, most USB cams can
> only be used one at a time.

No, actually I haven't. I've used them separately but haven't been
able to align them well enough to use them simultaneously. What route
should I go for 2 cameras, most likely on the same DirectShow filter
graph? 1394?


Posted by Si Ballenger on March 16, 2007, 7:53 pm
On 16 Mar 2007 07:14:06 -0700, j@thewolfweb.com wrote:

>> >Hello,
>> >I'm trying to find a bunch of cheap cameras for a budget project I am
>> >working on, but I haven't had much luck. I need the following:
>> >- small enclosed camera or board camera
>> >- black and white
>> >- usb or 1394 with directshow drivers (preferably UVC or DCAM)
>> >- m12 or cs lens mount
>> >- no IR filtering
>> >- 1/3" or greater sensor size (to expand field of view with lens)
>> >- less than $100
>> >no real preference on:
>> >- resolution
>> >- sensor type (CMOS CCD)
>> >ironically a cheap $5.99 webcam off ebay did the job, except:
>> >- need to mount two of them (not stereo though) in PERFECT alignment
>> >and cheap swivel plastic, etc just doesn't work
>> >- need to mount super wide angle lense
>> >- would prefer strictly b&w
>> >any idea on resources to help find this? All of the machine vision
>> >cameras I'm seeing are well over $100! I'm quite irritated that it
>> >looks like I'm going to have to fork out that much each of these when
>> >the $5.99 camera had all of the electronics covered!
>> >Thanks in advance for any help!
>> Have you actually tried using two or more USB cams at the same
>> time in your project? When connected to a PC, most USB cams can
>> only be used one at a time.
>No, actually I haven't. I've used them separately but haven't been
>able to align them well enough to use them simultaneously. What route
>should I go for 2 cameras, most likely on the same DirectShow filter
>graph? 1394?

Not knowing what the intended use is, I would think several
analog cams being switched to use a single capture card/device
would be a possible solution. Supercircuits below has a large
selection of analog cams.

http://www.supercircuits.com/



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