EV Warrior motor: stall torque of 691 oz-in = X operating torque ?

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EV Warrior motor: stall torque of 691 oz-in = X operating torque ? pogo 12-06-2005
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Posted by pogo on December 6, 2005, 8:39 pm
A am looking at the EV Warrior motor, which says it has a stall torque of
691 oz-in. at 12vdc.
What can I surmise that the "operating torque" is, based on that ?

Thanks !



Posted by Matt Timmermans on December 7, 2005, 12:04 am
>A am looking at the EV Warrior motor, which says it has a stall torque of
> 691 oz-in. at 12vdc.
> What can I surmise that the "operating torque" is, based on that ?

You can't. The torque you can safely use in continuous operation depends
primarily on how much heat is generated inside the motor and how quickly it
dissipates. You can calculate operating torque from the motor's torque
constant (torque/current) and either the continuous horsepower or continuous
current rating.

--
Matt



Posted by pogo on December 7, 2005, 2:03 am
> You can calculate operating torque from the motor's torque
> constant (torque/current) and either the continuous horsepower or
continuous
> current rating.

One web site gives the following specs for the EV Warrior motor. But the
term "ozf.in/A" is confusing to me.
It's the "f" in there that is confusing ... what's it mean ? ( I understand
oz-in. )

Thanks once again !

Specifications for clockwise rotation: Motor only performance.
Typical system performance.

Voltage: 12 V

Angular-velocity constant: 229 rpm/V

Torque constant: 5.91 ozf·in/A

Termaina resistance: 0.121 ohm

No-load current: 3.9 A

Peak efficiency: 64.3 %

Power source resistance: 0 ohm
0.121 ohm

Peak power: 0.368 hp
0.168 hp

No-load angular velocity: 2640 rpm
2530 rpm

Stall current: 99.2 A
49.6 A

Stall torque: 563 ozf·in
270 ozf·in





Posted by Mike Young on December 7, 2005, 8:07 am

>> You can calculate operating torque from the motor's torque
>> constant (torque/current) and either the continuous horsepower or
> continuous
>> current rating.
> One web site gives the following specs for the EV Warrior motor. But the
> term "ozf.in/A" is confusing to me.
> It's the "f" in there that is confusing ... what's it mean ? ( I
> understand
> oz-in. )

One presumes ozf is analogous to lbf, pound force, as distinguished from
pound mass. 'ozf' would then be ounce force, which is the same as ounce.
ozf.in/A is then oz-in/A.

Note that they specify for "clockwise rotation". Brushed DC motor
performance is strongly dependent on commuatation timing, advance or retard.
These values likely don't apply if your application is bi-directional.

> Specifications for clockwise rotation: Motor only performance.
> Typical system performance.

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Matt, given this motor's Kt, Kv, and no-load specs, what do you think about
gearing for this motor for:

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Posted by pogo on December 7, 2005, 1:13 pm
> One presumes ozf is analogous to lbf, pound force, as distinguished from
> pound mass. 'ozf' would then be ounce force, which is the same as ounce.
> ozf.in/A is then oz-in/A.

Aha! thanks - that makes much more sense. I was thinking it meant lb-feet
somehow, which didn't make any sense to me.

Now on to the "/A" part --- does that mean per Amp ? so it would mean x lbs
force - in per one Amp ? I find several quotes on the net using this
nomenclature but no explicit definition yet.



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